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Sunday, May 15, 2016

DOES EXODUS 19:6 SUPPORT A CATHOLIC PRIESTHOOD?



And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. (Exodus 19:6)

In the Bible, some things carry over from the Old Testament into the New.  Some things don’t.  Certain laws were specifically for the Old Testament Jews and for a specific limited time in history.  For example, grain and animal sacrifices… certain ceremonial, clothing and dietary laws… and the tabernacle and its furnishings are all only types and shadows of Jesus Christ (Colossians 2:16-17; Hebrews 10:1).  Those things were just for the Old Testament Jews to follow and they don’t carry over into the New Testament.  They were fulfilled in Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:17; Romans 10:4).  Another practice that is not intended for the New Testament is the “ministerial” priesthood, where only certain “ordained” men using certain ceremonies and rituals could mediate between man and God.

But the Catholic Church will insist that there is indeed a New Testament ministerial priesthood (like in the Old Testament) and one Catholic argument that they use to try and prove this is the “three-fold priesthood.”  This brief article is to specifically address this (and only this) three-fold argument.  The Catholic reasoning goes something like this:

1) In the Old Testament, the Jews had a high priest (Leviticus 21:10).
2) In the Old Testament, the Jews had ministerial priests (Exodus 19:22).   
3) In the Old Testament, the Jews also had a universal priesthood [one that makes every believer a priest] (Exodus 19:6).
4) Conclusion:  Therefore, since the New Testament also has a High Priest like the Old Testament does, and it also has universal priests like the Old Testament does, it would make sense if all three of these same positions would carry over into the New Testament.  If the Old Testament has three types of priest, so should the New Testament.

We could possibly agree with our Catholic friends if, AND ONLY IF, the premises were all correct.  Now, we agree with the first two premises, but not the third.  Therefore, we don’t reach the same conclusion, either. 
 
Many who read Exodus 19:6 still don’t realize that the Old Testament did NOT have a universal priesthood.  Why would we say this after reading that verse?  Well, a universal priesthood was indeed promised by God to the Jews, but it was a CONDITIONAL promise (i.e., it was dependent on the Jews’ obedience).  Read it in context.  Just one verse before, God said:

Exodus 19:5 - “Now therefore, if ye will obey My voice indeed, and keep My covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto Me above all people: for all the earth is Mine:” 

Please notice the “IF ye will obey My voice” part.  Catholics seem to always miss this point - that the Jews first needed to be fully obedient to God’s covenant in order to obtain such a special priesthood.  But we all know of Israel’s failure (as a nation) to obey God’s voice in the Old Testament.  They were clearly and willfully disobedient over and over again.  Therefore, the Jews never got to enjoy this status of being a universal priesthood.
 
For the Old Testament Jews, the promise of a universal priesthood was dependent on THEIR obedience to the Law.  For New Testament believers (both Jew and Gentile), the promise of a universal priesthood is dependent on our faith in JESUS’ obedience to the Law, and on HIS work on the cross.

Exodus 19:6 is still a valid promise to the Jews and they will indeed enjoy that privilege one day (Isaiah chapter 61).  There are many, many promises to the Jews not yet fulfilled, and Exodus 19:6 is only one of them.
 
So, the bottom line in this priesthood debate is this:  There were only two functioning priesthoods in the Old Testament – a high priesthood (Leviticus 21:10) and a ministerial one (Exodus 19:22).  And there are only two in the New Testament, as well - the High Priesthood of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 2:17; 3:1), and a universal priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:5, 9; Revelation 1:6).  No other Christian office of priest is mentioned in the New Testament.  Since there are only two in each Testament, and since the high priesthood is common to both, it follows that our New Testament universal priesthood has taken the place of the Old Testament ministerial-type priesthood.
 
Therefore, Catholics can’t use this “three-fold argument” to support the Catholic priesthood.  Not only does this apply to Catholics, but this also applies to the Orthodox Church and certain Protestant groups, as well.  It affects any group who claims to have such a “sacramental” or ministerial-type priesthood for today.

As stated earlier, this article was written specifically to address this one Catholic argument.  For a fuller treatment of the priesthood issue, see here:



Thursday, June 23, 2016

MARTIGNONI AND KORAH’S REBELLION



Today our focus is going to be on another of John Martignoni’s newsletters.  As you may remember, John Martignoni is a very popular and influential Catholic apologist who heads the “Bible Christian Society.”  In his Newsletter #278, he talks about Korah’s rebellion in the Old Testament (Numbers 16:1-40).  The newsletter can be found here:


Martignoni states:

“…Korah's Rebellion was a rebellion against authority - the authority of Moses and Aaron.  It was a rebellion against the authority of those that God had placed in charge of His people.”

First of all, we want to say that Martignoni is correct in his understanding of the events of Korah’s rebellion in Numbers 16.  Korah was indeed guilty of rejecting the God-ordained authority of Moses and Aaron.  Their (Old Testament) ministerial priesthood was absolutely legitimate.  But according to Martignoni, the sin of Korah suggests that we should have a New Testament ministerial priesthood, as well.  He points to the book of Jude, which looks back to the Old Testament and mentions the sin of Korah.  Concerning this, Martignoni says:

“The interesting thing is, and this is something that we, as Catholics, need to bring up more often than we do, is that the essence of Korah's Rebellion also existed in New Testament times.  We read in Jude 10-11 that there are men who ‘revile whatever they do not understand...’  and who ‘perish in Korah's rebellion’… Yet, what do we take away from Jude 10-11?  There were people, in the New Testament era, perishing in Korah's Rebellion.  What was Korah's Rebellion?  It was a rebellion against having a separate priesthood...an ordained priesthood...a priesthood that is set apart, in certain ways, from the royal priesthood of believers.   It's a rebellion against a priesthood that didn't include all of the people.”

Using Jude 10-11, Martignoni is insisting that 1) since Korah’s rebellion consisted specifically of a rejection of the Old Testament ministerial priesthood, and 2) since Jude applies Korah’s sin to some people in the New Testament, he then concludes that anyone rejecting a New Testament ministerial priesthood is also guilty of Korah’s sin of rebellion.  Martignoni continues:

“So, if that's what Korah's Rebellion was about, then how could Korah's Rebellion be occurring in the New Testament era, unless there was an ordained priesthood?  …This passage from Jude makes absolutely no sense unless there was, from the earliest moments of the Church, an ordained priesthood.  You can't have Korah's Rebellion in 1st century Christianity if there was no ordained priesthood - if there was no distinction between the royal priesthood of all believers and the ordained priesthood.”

There are a number of Catholic apologists who use this same type of argument and try to promote the idea of a ministerial priesthood in the New Testament.  But notice that Martignoni deals with no other verses in Jude except 10 and 11.  But verses 10 and 11 alone are not sufficient to determine the context of Jude’s use of Korah’s rebellion here.  We must look at the surrounding context to understand what Jude is saying.

Notice that there are other people, as well, who are mentioned in this context, and not just Korah:


  • The ungodly people (v.4), who crept into the church and rejected God’s concept of grace and turned it into a license to sin

  • The first generation of Jews (v.5), who were delivered out of Egypt but rejected God’s established covenant with them by their unbelief (Hebrews 3:16-19)

  • The fallen angels (v.6), who rejected God’s authority and special plan, and chose to follow Lucifer, instead (2 Peter 2:4; Revelation 12:4)

  •  The men of Sodom and Gomorrah (v.7), who rejected God’s natural order of “men with women” and chose the perversion of homosexuality, instead (Genesis 19:4-5)

  •  Cain (v.11), who rejected God’s plan of an innocent life dying for the guilty when he offered a gift of vegetables / fruit (the work of his hands), instead (Genesis 4:3-5)

  • Balaam (v.11), who rejected God’s special annointing on His people (the Jews), who were blessed by Him, but Balaam was willing to curse them for money (Numbers 22:5-21; 2 Peter 2:15)

  • And Korah (v.11), who rejected God’s plan of an Old Testament ministerial priesthood (Numbers 16:3)

The sins of all the others mentioned here had NOTHING whatsoever to do with rejecting a ministerial priesthood – it was ONLY KORAH (and his followers) that did this.  But the thing that all seven (mentioned above) were guilty of, is rejecting God’s intended plan.  This is what they all had in common.

The details of Korah are unlike all the others in this chapter.  To make Korah’s specific sin (i.e., rejecting a valid priesthood) the focus of Jude’s whole point, or to force the context of Korah onto the whole context of Jude is pure eisegesis (i.e., reading something into the context that is not there).  The purpose of Jude’s message is NOT to condemn all those who reject a ministerial priesthood, as Martignoni is suggesting.
 
Following Martignoni’s logic here would be like accusing everyone mentioned in Jude of being sodomites / homosexuals, just because Sodom and Gomorah happen to be mentioned (v.7).  Or it would be like accusing all those mentioned in Jude of rejecting God even after seeing Him face to face (as these angels had), just because the fallen angels are mentioned (v.6).  No, each person’s sin was somewhat different, but again, the common thread between them all is that each one was guilty of some type of rejection of God’s intended order.

Once again, Jude’s book is not an appeal to the church to go back to an Old Testament-type ministerial priesthood (Hebrews 10:18).  Jude was simply warning us to contend for the faith and to be careful of rejecting God’s plans, and he gives us different examples of rejection.

Catholic apologists like Martignoni try really hard to find a ministerial priesthood in the New Testament.  But there is no biblical evidence for such a thing.  Actually, the scriptural evidence points to one that has been discontinued in the New Testament church (e.g., Matthew 27:50-51; Hebrews 9:12, 28; 10:10-12, 14, 18).  See these articles:



Although John Martignoni correctly understands the facts of Numbers 16 (the story of Korah’s rebellion), he is misapplying what Jude said about it, and is promoting a false teaching.  There IS no ministerial priesthood within the pages of the New Testament, but only the High Priesthood of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 3:1) and the universal priesthood of all believers (1 Peter 2:5).

Saturday, July 28, 2018

WHERE ARE ALL THE PRIESTS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT?


We all know that there was a ministerial priesthood in the Old Testament, that is, a priesthood where special men were needed to mediate between God and man.  That was God’s design for the nation of Israel for that time period.  But what about the New Testament period?  Was this same type of priesthood intended for today?  There are certain groups today (with Christian roots) who do indeed claim to have a priesthood, like Catholics, Orthodox, and even certain Protestants (e.g., Anglicans / Episcopalians and some Lutherans).  This article applies to all of these groups, but here we intend to focus on Catholicism, since it is the largest and most popular group to have priests.

To answer the question of whether a priesthood should exist today, we will go on a short journey through the New Testament to determine if there is indeed a ministerial priesthood therein.

The Search

Ok, what about the gospels?  Do we find priests mentioned in these accounts?  Well, we find Jewish priests in Matthew (e.g., 8:4; 12:4), Mark (e.g., 1:44; 2:26), Luke (e.g., 1:5; 5:14), and John (e.g., 1:9).  But no Christian priests are mentioned.

How about in the book of Acts?  Again, we find only Jewish priests (e.g., Acts 6:7), and one pagan priest (Acts 14:13).

Ok, let’s look at the epistles.  

Romans 15:16 mentions the apostle Paul’s “ministering the gospel of God” (KJV).  The Greek term for this phrase basically means “to minister in the manner of a priest.”  But the apostle never takes to himself this title.  This verse is simply speaking of his work of sharing the gospel with the gentiles, not being or becoming a priest.

And then there is the book of Hebrews, which only mentions Jewish priests and a Jewish priesthood (e.g., 7:5; 7:12), including Jesus’ High priesthood (2:17; 8:1), and Melchizedek (Hebrews 7:21) who was an Old Testament priest.

That brings us to the book of 1 Peter, which only mentions the universal priesthood of all believers (e.g., 2:5: 2:9).

And finally, in the book of Revelation, we again see only the universal priesthood of believers (e.g., 1:6; 5:10).

Nowhere in Sight

These are the only types of priests mentioned in the whole New Testament.  So again, we find a pagan priest, Jewish priests, and the universal priesthood of all believers, but absolutely no Christian ministerial priests.  But why would this be if a modern-day priesthood is so important (according to Catholics) and has such a vital role in the church?  The silence is very telling.

Ok, so there is no one called a Christian priest in the New Testament.  Could it be that there is another term that is used for “priest” today?  According to Catholics, yes there is.  Protestants will rightly say that the Greek word “hiereus” is the word for priest and that this Greek word nowhere appears to describe a ministerial priest in the New Testament.  But Catholics believe that the word for “elder” (Greek “presbuteros”) is now the proper New Testament term for priest (e.g., Acts 14:23; James 5:14).

The Etymology Argument

But what is their reasoning for calling elders priests?  They will tell us that the English word priest also comes from the Greek “presbuteros.”  In other words, it is derived from presbuteros and has eventually evolved over the years into the word priest.  And etymology (the study of word origins and how they evolve and develop) confirms this.  So, according to them, since the word “priest” is derived from “presbuteros,” then those elders in the early church were actually priests.  But is that good logic?  It is certainly not good Bible exegesis (i.e., critical explanation / interpretation of a text without reading something into it).  

Sadly, Catholics are more dependent on etymology here than they are on Scripture.  But if etymology is that important, then we can also call biblical elders Presbyterians, since this word is also derived from “presbuteros.”  But we don’t think we’ll see Catholics rushing to say that.  So, this etymology argument doesn’t work.

The Similar Functions Argument

Another argument from Catholics is that they believe that modern ministerial priests are the same as the biblical elders because today’s priests perform the same functions as biblical elders, like receiving tithes, laying hands on the brethren, preaching and teaching, shepherding the flock, administering ordinances like communion and baptism, praying for their people, etc.  But we would say that this is exactly what many Protestants do, also.  According to that logic, wouldn’t that make the biblical elders “Protestants,” as well, since they perform similar functions?  Again, we don’t think that Catholics would be in a hurry to say that, either.

Catholics attribute to themselves a particular title (priests) and mimic some of the basic things that the biblical elders did, and then they try to force that title (i.e., priests) back onto those biblical elders where it doesn’t belong.  That’s not how you determine the definition of something, and again, neither is it proper exegesis.

Just because you copied them doesn’t mean that you are one of them, or that they are the same as you.  You can’t assign your own claimed title to someone to whom the Bible doesn’t recognize as such!  Even if the work one does somehow ties in to the work of a priest, so what?  It doesn’t make one a priest.  It simply links to a priestly type of work / function.  

And furthermore, what spiritual work DOESN’T tie in to a priestly type of work?  Apparently, every true spiritual work seems to relate somehow to priests.  So, does this make EVERYONE who does any kind of spiritual work a ministerial priest?  Of course not.  This Catholic argument seems to prove too much, and thus, also falls by the wayside.

Not on the List

But why would we think that ministerial priests exist in the New Testament anyway?  The apostle Paul mentions the offices and functions of the church in 1 Timothy chapters 3 and 5, and in Titus chapter 1.  He gives specific instructions for ministry, church order, gifts and service in 1 Corinthians chapters 11-14 and in Ephesians chapter 4.  But according to Paul, there is no office of “priest.”  Wouldn’t you think that this would have been a great opportunity to mention a priesthood if God intended one for the church?  If ministerial priests are absolutely critical for the church age, where are they in the new covenant?

No More Sacrifice

For a ministerial priesthood to exist, there has to be a sacrifice for sin.  A priest is a special mediator between man and God (1 Timothy 2:5).  In God’s economy, the Old Testament used priests for this purpose.  One of their main jobs was to offer sacrifice for the people to be saved from their sins.  In those days, the debt of sin was not yet paid for mankind.  But today, there is NO MORE SACRIFICE to offer for sin (Hebrews 10:18).  The one and only, the ONCE FOR ALL (Hebrews 7:27; 10:10) and Ultimate Sacrifice has been offered (John 19:30), terminating the need for any more sacrifices which atone for sin.  The types of sacrifices that are to be offered today are spiritual sacrifices, for example, your praise and thanksgiving to God (Hebrews 13:15), your own selves (Romans 12:1), etc. 

In a desperate attempt to salvage a priesthood, Catholics use two main passages trying to prove that Jesus established a ministerial priesthood.  The first one is the Last Supper discourse where Jesus breaks bread and pours out wine, and says, “This do in remembrance of Me” (Luke 22:19-20).  They will insist that Jesus really meant, “Offer this sacrifice in remembrance of Me.”  But we have no biblical reason to believe that the apostles saw this ritual as an actual sacrifice, or would have thought that in the Last Supper that a priesthood was being established.  See these links:




The other passage they use is John 20:21-23 where Jesus sends His apostles on the Great Commission, breathes on them and tells them whoever’s sins you remit / retain are remitted / retained.  But there is absolutely no mention of a priesthood here, nor any kind of precedent to cause anyone to think that a priesthood was beginning here, either.  See this link:


The fact that Scripture denies a New Testament priesthood should, in itself, settle the matter, but even history is against the concept, as we will now show.

The Church Says…

According to the Catholic Church, “…the sacred Scriptures show, and the tradition of the Catholic Church HAS ALWAYS TAUGHT, that this priesthood was instituted by the same Lord our Saviour, and that to the apostles, and their successors in the priesthood, was the power delivered of consecrating, offering, and administering His Body and Blood, as also of forgiving and of retaining sins.” [Emphasis added] Council of Trent, 23rd Session, Doctrine and Canons, Chapter 1

Please note first of all that they are claiming that Scripture teaches that the priesthood was instituted, or established, at the Last Supper.  But this cannot be proven by Scripture at all.  There is nothing about a priesthood there.  It is read into the text.  Secondly, notice that they are also claiming that the church has always taught, from the beginning, that this priesthood was believed and accepted by the early church.  But this is not true.  Ministerial priests can only start to be found in the church in the second or third century A.D.

Even many Catholic apologists admit that calling an elder a “priest” was a development over time.  And if it developed, then they are admitting that this concept is not apostolic in nature, since it was not taught by the apostles.  Something is not “apostolic” if the apostles didn’t believe it, teach it, or do it. 

Here are some sources to demonstrate this fact.

The Witness of History

“A priesthood developed gradually in the early Christian church as first bishops and then elders, or ‘presbyters,’ began to exercise certain priestly functions, mainly in connection with the celebration of the Eucharist.  By the end of the 2nd century, the church’s bishops were called priests (Latin: sacerdos)… The development of eucharistic theology resulted in a further emphasis of the priest’s supernatural powers and qualities…” Encyclopaedia Britannica, online (under “Priest – Christianity”)


“Although the term ‘priest’ (Greek hiereus) refers to the entire Christian people, it is given to no church officer in the New Testament.  First appearing in the 2nd century, the office is associated with the establishment of the eucharistic sacrifice, over which the priest was called to preside.  No doubt the development of the monarchical episcopate also contributed to the emergence of the priesthood…” Encyclopaedia Brittanica, online (under Roman Catholicism, Structure of the Church, The Priesthood)


[Speaking of the Epistle to the Hebrews] “This argument leaves no room for a special priesthood in the Christian Church, and in fact nothing of the kind is found in the oldest organization of the new communities of faith.  The idea that presbyters and bishops are priests and the successors of the Old Testament priesthood first appears in full force in the writings of Cyprian… [245-258 A.D.]” The Encyclopaedia Brittanica (Handy Volume Issue), Volume XXII, p. 321, Eleventh Edition, copyright 1911, (under “Priest”)

“Even Hebrews does not associate Christ’s priesthood with the Last Supper or the Eucharist, however.  This required a further development: the emergence, at the end of the first century, of the explicit teaching that the Eucharist was a sacrifice, presided over by a Christian priest… From the beginning of the second century, Christian writers increasingly applied cultic, sacerdotal terminology to the church’s ministers.” The Encyclopedia of Religion, Volume XI, p. 528, copyright 1987 (under “Priesthood”)

Historian Philip Schaff writes:

“The idea and institution of a special priesthood, distinct from the body of the people, with the accompanying notion of sacrifice and altar, passed imperceptibly from Jewish and heathen reminiscences and analogies into the Christian church… Whether we regard the change as an apostasy from a higher position attained, or as a reaction of old ideas never fully abandoned, the change is undeniable, and can be traced to the second century… The New Testament knows no spiritual aristocracy or nobility, but calls all believers “saints”… Nor does it recognize a special priesthood in distinction from the people, as mediating between God and the laity… During the third century it became customary to apply the term “priest” directly and exclusively to the Christian ministers, especially the bishops.” History of the Christian Church, Volume II: Ante-Nicene Christianity. A.D. 100-325, chapter IV: Organization and Discipline of the Church, paragraph 42, Clergy and Laity, pp. 78-80, online.


Conclusion

It is absolutely amazing that a respected and important office such as the ministerial priest, one who is considered to be another Christ (“Alter Christus”), being so critical to the life of the church, would be absent from the God-breathed Scriptures.  Strange indeed.  And the reason that it is not there is because it is not something that God ordained.  Where are all the ministerial priests in the New Testament?  There aren’t any.  And as we said before, this does not only apply to Catholics, but to the Orthodox and Protestant “priests,” as well.

See also this link on the priesthood:

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2010/03/priesthood.html