MARTIGNONI AND THE GOD OF THE MUSLIMS

 

I would like to address another one (actually two) of Catholic apologist John Martignoni’s newsletter articles, namely:

Newsletter #496 (Part 1) which can be found here:

https://www.biblechristiansociety.com/newsletter/705-apologetics-for-the-masses-496-do-muslims-and-christians-worship-the-same-god

And #497 (Part 2) which is here:

https://www.biblechristiansociety.com/newsletter/706-apologetics-for-the-masses-497-do-muslims-and-catholics-worship-the-same-god-part-2

Now John, as a faithful son of the Catholic Church, is in the unenviable position of having to do what I would call damage control for the Church.  I’ve seen Catholic apologists like John and others who struggle on the front lines in the apologetics war to try and reconcile what the Church is saying when it is not so clear in its official teachings. 

Case in point is paragraph #841 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

“The Church’s relationship with the Muslims.  ‘The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.’” (CCC# 841)

Ok, so John Martignoni takes us on somewhat of a rollercoaster ride – at times seemingly defending the spiritual status of the Muslims and at other times, questioning it.

In Part 1, John quotes paragraph #841 and then states:

“In other words, the Church teaches – at least in the Catechism – that Muslims do indeed worship the same God as Christians.  However, that is not a doctrinal teaching of the Church…” (Emphasis added)

Not a doctrinal teaching?  That’s a strange thing to say for a Catholic apologist.  If it comes from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, I would think that it is indeed doctrine.  On what basis does John Martignoni say such a thing?  Why would paragraph #841 NOT be a doctrine of the Catholic Church?

In at least one Catholic Answers article, it explains:

“In general, doctrine is all Church teaching in matters of faith and morals.”

See here:

https://www.catholic.com/qa/what-is-the-difference-between-doctrine-and-dogma

And I think that this is the general consensus of the Catholic Church.

So, does this mean that the salvation referred to in paragraph #841 is NOT about faith and morals?  What about the “acknowledging the Creator” part, or the “faith of Abraham,” or the “mankind’s judge” part?  Aren’t these obviously about faith and morals?  I would think yes, absolutely!

By Whose Authority?

So, who has given John Martignoni the authority to declare that this paragraph in the Catechism is not about matters of faith and morals?  I’m pretty sure that the Catholic Magisterium (Church leaders) would disagree with him.

Then John goes on to state, “… it is my belief that Muslims do indeed worship the same God as Catholics.  However, they obviously have serious misunderstandings about the God they worship.  But a misunderstanding about the nature of God does not constitute worshipping a false god… Just because they have erroneous beliefs about God, it doesn’t mean they are actually worshipping a different God.”

So, in other words, John is saying that the Muslims do indeed worship the true God of the Bible, but they are just doing it in an incomplete and deficient way, like the Samaritan woman in John 4:22. 

Martignoni’s Dilemma

A little later in this newsletter, John Martignoni says that the Muslims “profess” to hold the faith of Abraham, but he then says, “Just because they claim it, doesn’t make it true.”  I would agree wholeheartedly with John here.  But (in spite of what the Catechism says) he seems to be doubting the Muslims’ relationship with God here.  The language used in Paragraph #841 in the Catechism seems to strongly indicate that Muslims are indeed “brothers” with Catholics – for example, they “adore” the same God as the Catholic Church does.

To further demonstrate this idea, here is a quote from former pope John Paul II:

“As I have often said in other meetings with Muslims, your God and ours is one and the same, and we are brothers and sisters in the faith of Abraham.  Thus it is natural that we have much to discuss concerning true holiness in obedience and worship to God.” (Address of Pope John Paul II to the participants in the Colloquium on “Holiness in Christianity and Islam” in Rome, Thursday 9 May 1985)

And again, Pope John Paul II later states:

“Today I would like to repeat what I said to young Muslims some years ago in Casablanca: ‘We believe in the same God, the one God, the living God, the God who created the world and brings his creatures to their perfection.’” (John Paul II to a general audience, Wednesday 5, May 1999)

So, if Catholics and Muslims are “brothers and sisters” and if you both believe in and adore “the same God,” “the one God,” “the living God,” then according to the former pope AND the Catechism, you (Catholics and Muslims) must both be believers and both in right standing with God, right, John?

But I don’t think that John is comfortable with that idea.  I agree with him that Muslims are not in right standing with God, but doesn’t he have to comply with his Church and isn’t he obligated to agree with its doctrines? 

John is correct to suggest that Muslim teaching does not line up with the (biblical) faith of Abraham.  It’s tough when the Church puts you on the spot, isn’t it John?  In doing this, the Church is setting up its apologists for failure.  You shouldn’t have to clean up their mess.  But regretfully, John, you still choose to remain with the Catholic Church.

The Plan of Salvation

But then John Martignoni is forced to nuance paragraph #841 by stating:

“Saying that the Muslims are included in the plan of salvation is not the same thing as saying the Muslims are saved.”

And he goes on to mention (as examples) the Assyrians capturing the northern tribes of Israel, the Egyptians enslaving the Israelites, and the scribes and Pharisees arranging Jesus’ crucifixion.  He says this to prove that none of these were godly, yet even these guys were included in the “plan of salvation” in the sense that they helped bring about the ultimate plan of God.

Come on, John, you can do better than that!  First, I already demonstrated that the language of paragraph #841 and the language of Pope John Paul II is clear that you Catholics and the Muslims are “brothers and sisters.” 

Secondly, saying that the “plan of salvation” includes all these people that you mentioned does nothing to prove your case.  If you want to go that route, we could say that every human on earth is part of the “plan of salvation,” since Jesus (because of OUR sin) had to die for ALL OF US.  We all played a part in it – according to Scripture, we have all sinned (Romans 3:23), so, in a sense, we all had a part in Calvary – it’s just that we humans played a very negative and embarrassing part!  So your argument is meaningless, John.  It reduces your definition of the “plan of salvation” to nonsense.

I agree that Muslims are not “brothers” with Christians, but you have a dilemma in defending your Church.  Both the Catechism and the former pope are teaching Catholic doctrine because they are both addressing faith and morals.

Times of Ignorance

In the second newsletter mentioned (Part 2), John Martignoni asks:

“So the Jews of the Old Testament did not worship the real God?  It wasn’t the real God that gave the Jews the Old Testament Scriptures?  It wasn’t the real God that divided the Red Sea?  It wasn’t the real God that fed them in the desert with manna from Heaven?  It wasn’t the real God that created Adam and Eve along with the rest of the universe?”

To answer John’s question, of course it was the real God, the biblical God, who did all those things in the Old Testament.  Although the Jews truly worshipped the real God as best they could, they could only do so with a limited understanding (John 4:21-24).  But once they met the Savior (who is the very image of the Father), they could then begin to know and understand the Father much better. 

But before Jesus came to earth, they didn’t know the exact identity of the Savior of mankind.  They had many passages in the Old Testament that pointed to this Messiah, but they weren’t expected to know what we know today from the New Testament.  All they had was the “faith of Abraham,” which looked forward to the promise of the Jewish Messiah. 

But the Jews of the Old Testament were allowed to worship the real God while in a certain amount of ignorance:

“And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.” (Acts 17:30)

But all we (i.e., all mankind) have no excuse today!  The gospel of Jesus Christ has pretty much been spread throughout the world, with very few exceptions, I think.  So the Jew, the Muslim, the Zoroastrian, the Sikh, the Buddhist, the Hindu, the witch doctor in the deepest and darkest part of Africa – everyone who is searching for spiritual truth – now has possible access to the gospel of Jesus Christ.  God promises that if you humbly and truly reach out to Him, He will make a way for you to find Him (Acts 17: 27; Romans 1:18-20).  So this gives no one an excuse to wrongly worship Him today, Muslim or otherwise.

Misunderstood God or False God?

In Part 2, John also made this statement:

“Even if the worship of Muslims, and Jews, is not pleasing to God, that still doesn’t mean those whose worship is not pleasing to Him are somehow worshipping some other God.  It simply means, again, that their worship is deficient.  I don’t understand why some believe improper worship of God necessarily equates to worshipping a different God.  Where does Scripture say that deficient worship of the one true God = worshipping a false God?”

In answering that question, the apostle Paul was grieved with the church at Corinth, who seemed to be eager to accept almost any message from almost anyone, and he told them:

“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.” (2 Corinthians 11:3-4)

Notice that Paul complained that the Corinthians were quick to accept “another Jesus,” “another spirit,” or “another gospel.”  You see, not every “gospel” message has the right “spirit,” or the right “Jesus.”  It’s a package deal.  And take note – Paul didn’t say that they were trying to worship the correct Jesus, just in a deficient way – he calls it another Jesus, thus pointing out that they were committing idolatry.

If one is not preaching the right Jesus, he is not preaching the right gospel.  Just calling the one you’re worshipping “Jesus,” doesn’t make it Him.

The Muslim “Jesus” (“Isa” in Arabic) is a holy prophet, but not the Son of God.  They agree that he did great works and even miracles, but he did not die on the cross to save mankind. 

This is, by definition, another Jesus, i.e., a false one.

If you are praying to the Muslim “Jesus,” you are praying to a false god.  You can call it Jesus if you want to, but it is not the Jesus of the Bible.  It is not just a “deficient” worship, it would be idolatry.

Conclusion

Of course, we know that no one has perfect worship.  All worship of God is deficient to some extent.  No one knows God, or the things of God, perfectly or completely.  But certain things about God are absolutely necessary to believe in order to truly worship Him.  Our worship of Him is totally dependent on recognizing both the person and work of Jesus Christ on Calvary.  Only then can you truly worship the Father.

The apostle John said:

“That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.” (John 5:23)

For proper worship, you need the Father AND the Son.  Again, you can’t have one without the other, or you end up with neither. (1 John 2:23; 2 John 1:9)

The apostle Paul gives us a stern warning about the message he first presented to the Galatians:

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8-9)

Whoever doesn’t believe in Paul’s original gospel message and his original Jesus is utterly condemned.  The Muslims may believe in a “Jesus” (and a particular “gospel” that goes along with it), but they do not have the biblical message of the gospel of Jesus Christ, because they don’t recognize His true person and work.

Christians worship the God who inspired the Bible, Muslims worship the god who inspired the Qur’an.  Two different messages altogether.  Therefore, they DON’T have the same God as the Christians do. 

This refutes the claim of the Catholic Catechism and Pope John Paul II.  Muslims are guilty of idolatry in the eyes of God and the Catholic Church will be held accountable for the part they played in deceiving the Muslims.

See also this article on the topic of the Muslim god and the Christian God:

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2010/10/same-god.html

 

THE JESUITS

 

Many of us already know that Jorge Mario Bergoglio (Pope Francis) is the first-ever Jesuit pope.  I kind of have to wonder why exactly that is, since there have been many Jesuits in the Catholic Church throughout the centuries.  Maybe this has something to do with some sort of timing?  Don’t know.  But I do know that this Jesuit pope has been very controversial, as many in the Catholic Church will attest.

But what are the purposes, beliefs and motivation of the Jesuits as a group?  And how does all this affect the pope or his teachings? 

According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, a Jesuit is a “member of the Society of Jesus (S.J.), a Roman Catholic order of religious men founded by St. Ignatius of Loyola [1540 A.D.], noted for its educational, missionary, and charitable works.”  This order has also been regarded by many as “the principal agent of the Counter-Reformation and was later a leading force in modernizing the church.”

See here:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Jesuits

Origin

Ignatius of Loyola was a soldier who was wounded in battle by a cannonball that shattered his right leg, after which a long process of healing began.

According to a Catholic Answers Magazine article:

 “As soon as he could walk, Ignatius went to the Benedictine monastery of Santa Maria de Montserrat, placed his armor before an image of Mary, and then went to a cave in the solitude of Manresa, where he spent ten months in self-mortification.  Ignatius prepared his heart for a new type of battle, training in the arms of the spirit, strengthening his resolve to serve heaven through prayer and fasting.  There in that cave, Ignatius learned asceticism and discovered the foundation of his Spiritual Exercises.”

See here:

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/st-ignatius-and-the-jesuits

What Do They Believe?

What are some of the things that the Jesuits believe and teach?  One of their main spiritual principles is reported to be “finding God in all things.”  They also claim that “Jesuits draw on the rich tradition of Ignatian spirituality and discernment.”  Another important aspect of their beliefs is that they aim to be “contemplatives in action.”

According to different sources, the work they do includes “global justice, peace and dialogue.”  The 4 vows of the Jesuits are:

1) Poverty

2) Chasity,

3) Obedience and

4) Worldwide Mission

See here:

https://www.jesuits.org/about-us/

But as I mentioned earlier, it is these “Spiritual Exercises” that Ignatius discovered that seem to be the real focus and perhaps the key to Jesuit spirituality.  More about this a little later. 

Interesting Facts

Ignatius was recognized as a “soldier-turned-mystic.”

According to one Catholic source:

“… [Jesuits were] often considered one of the Catholic Church’s most influential religious orders.” (Emphasis added)

This author also admits they were not loved by everyone:

“… the Jesuits are also among the church’s more controversial groups… and they have been accused of conniving in politics… Founding Father John Adams wrote to Thomas Jefferson in 1816 that the order deserved ‘eternal Perdition on Earth and in Hell.’”

Here are a few more interesting statements from this article:

“Convinced that Christianity would spread more quickly if it adapted to local cultures, Jesuit missionaries in China incorporated elements of Confucian ancestor veneration into Catholic rituals.” (Emphasis added)

“Today in the minds of many, Jesuits continue to be associated with more progressive and liberal viewpoints.” (Emphasis added)

“Like those in other Catholic orders, Jesuit priests around the world have been accused of sex abuse.  A recent church report in Spain, for example, identified 96 abusers, most of whom had already died.”

“Future Jesuit emphases will continue to evolve as the order adapts to new circumstances.  But it is the ‘Spiritual Exercises’ that remain the heart of the identity and mission of today’s 17,000 Jesuits.” (Emphasis added)

See here:

https://www.bishop-accountability.org/2022/03/who-are-the-jesuits/

The leader of the Jesuits is called the “Superior General.”  The current Superior General, or “Father General,” is Father Arturo Sosa, S.J. 

Interestingly, one of their “ministries” is the Vatican Observatory, run by Jesuit astronomers. 

See here:

https://www.jesuits.org/about-us/who-we-are/

In 1773, after much pressure from European leaders (who didn’t like their missionary tactics nor their close ties to powerful people), Pope Clement XIV issued Dominus ac Redemptor, a brief suppressing the Jesuits.  See here:

https://www.jesuits.org/about-us/ignatius-of-loyola/

It is beyond a doubt that the Jesuits were not always favored by the people:

“Some saw the prayers and self-examinations in his [Ignatius’] spiritual exercises as potentially dangerous mysticism.” [Even by Catholic standards!] 

Because of the Chinese Rites Controversy, “… even the pope [Clement XI] became suspicious of the Jesuits’ methods.”

“By the 18^th Century, suspicion and resentment of the Society became increasingly serious.  They were caricatured as deceptive and conniving tricksters who sought nothing less than world domination.” (Emphasis added)

They were also “kicked out of Portugal, France and Spain.”

See here:

https://www.historyhit.com/facts-about-the-jesuits/

The Truth About the Spiritual Exercises

The late Dave Hunt was a Christian apologist, speaker, radio commentator, and author, who started The Berean Call newsletter.  T.A. McMahon, now President and Executive Director of the newsletter had this to say about the “Spiritual Exercises” that the Jesuits perform:

“… Moreover, this is visual idolatry (Ex. 20:4-5) and a divination technique that opens the door to demonic spirits.  We personally know former Jesuit priests (Ignatius founded the Jesuits) who report that they had been demonized by this method.  The real Jesus will not respond, no matter how sincere the practitioner.  Through the imagination the visualized Jesus (or any other personage) often takes on a life of its own and brings the practitioner into occult bondage.  (See The Seduction of Christianity or Occult Invasion for more information on shamanic visualization.)”

The title of this particular newsletter is “Please Contemplate This” (March 2000) by McMahon, and he talks about the danger of “contemplative prayer” and these deceptive “spiritual exercises that invite direct experiences with God.” 

Some Serious Things to Consider

There are a multitude of “red flags” (warning signs) in the history of the Jesuits, and there are many reasons to doubt the trustworthiness of this group and their teachings.

Here is a brief recap of some of them so far:

First of all, I’ll admit to being biased, since this blog exists to point out the problems with many of the Catholic Church’s teachings.  So, my first issue is that not only are the Jesuits part of the Catholic Church, they are one of the Church’s most influential religious orders!  So, from the start, my “radar” is on high alert.

Secondly, the legalistic asceticism, self-abuse and self-mortification upon which the movement is built is also concerning.  According to the apostle Paul, this is not the way one increases in godliness (Colossians 2:20-23)!  As renown evangelical pastor, author, educator, and radio preacher Chuck Swindoll stated, “Legalism invariably denies the principle of GRACE and exalts the PRIDE of man” (Romans 11:6).  This holds true for everyone, not just Catholics.

You can also read some of my concerns about such legalism in this article:

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2022/06/catholic-convents-and-monasteries.html

Probably the most serious problem with all of this is Ignatius’ “Spiritual Exercises,” which are admittedly the foundation of the Jesuit movement.  As mentioned above (in McMahon’s Berean Call newsletter), these exercises are a form of occultic divination (Deuteronomy 18:10; 1 Samuel 15:23) that include New Age “contemplative prayer.”  Celebrities like Oprah Winfrey have often promoted such prayer and “meditation.”  But contemplative or “centering” prayer is simply anti-biblical/pagan Eastern Mysticism (Matthew 6:7-8).

See here:

https://www.gotquestions.org/contemplative-prayer.html

Note also these sobering quotes:

“The meditation of advanced occultists is identical with the prayer of advanced mystics: it is no accident that both traditions use the same word for the highest reaches of their respective activities – contemplation. – from the book, Richard Kirby, The Mission of Mysticism.”

“This mystical stream [contemplative prayer] is the Western bridge to Far Eastern spirituality… It is no accident that the most active frontier between Christian and Eastern religions today is between contemplative Christian monks and their Eastern equivalents.  Some forms of Eastern meditation informally have been incorporated or adapted into the practice of many Christian monks, and increasingly by other Christians. – Tilden Edwards, founder of the Shalem Institute for Spiritual Formation, in Spiritual Friend.”

See here:

https://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/5-things-you-should-know-about-contemplative-prayer/

The truth is, even Catholics saw these Ignatian exercises as “potentially dangerous mysticism.”  And they were exactly right.

To Sum Up

At different times in their history the Jesuits were simply not trusted, kicked out of several countries, suppressed by the pope, himself, noted for bringing ancestor worship into the Church, banned from many areas, they were seen as the “sword arm” of the pope, they aroused suspicion and resentment in the people, and were recognized as deceptive, conniving tricksters who lusted for power. 

For a supposedly “holy” religious order which is the most influential in the Catholic Church, this is NOT a very good resume!

The Values of Dr. Fauci

If these things do not seem sufficient to cause one to question the trustworthiness of the Jesuits, I would like to offer another reason.

The infamous Dr. Anthony Fauci is the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID).  He was the one overseeing the management of the Covid 19 “pandemic.”  Speaking to the newest members of the Alpha Sigma Nu (the national Jesuit honor society at Georgetown University), he encouraged them “to be staunch defenders of the Jesuit principles.”

In an annual induction ceremony of Georgetown’s Alpha Sigma Nu honor society, Fauci proudly claims that his Jesuit training has helped to prepare and shape him for his decades-long career in medicine and public service.

See here:

https://www.georgetown.edu/news/fauci-reflects-on-jesuit-values-in-his-career/

So, let me get this straight.  Fauci’s values come from Jesuit teaching/principles?  I would like to remind the reader that Dr. Fauci was accused (by Congressmen in court) of lying to Congress under oath about several facets of the Covid “pandemic,” of withholding critical information from the public, of hiding/redacting important email messages from Congress, and using various inconsistent explanations about his work with Covid.  He was endangering the citizens of America in a time of national stress and an increasing death rate with his arrogant “I AM the science” attitude.  Yet, he is described by some as a “distinguished” university professor.

Is this what his Jesuit training has conditioned him to do?  Remember, he is the one who emphasized that his values were Jesuit values.  What does that say about his beloved “Society of Jesus”?  What other “exceptional” qualities have the Jesuits prepared these students with?  Will they also be arrogant, liars, and hiders of the truth?

If this is what Jesuits teach their students, then perhaps this would actually lend credence to some of the “conspiracy theories” out there about Jesuit oaths, secret ceremonies, and other cloak-and-dagger activities.

Conclusion

There are many arguments today against the Jesuits that are considered to be mere “conspiracy theories” by some. 

Some of these theories depict the Jesuits as members of the Illuminati; bloodthirsty globalists who want to create a New World Order; involved in occultic trances and brainwashing; using blood oaths; exercising blind obedience to the pope; having a “the-end-justifies-the-means” mentality; they killed John F. Kennedy and Abraham Lincoln; they infiltrated Protestant churches to destroy them from within; they incited racism, hatred and jealousy in society; they were spies who started wars; concerning those they considered heretics, they would be willing to hang, burn, strangle, bury alive, or rip out babies from their wombs. 

See this interesting video:

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=jesuit+oath&mid=2B2D32F6C46B029D0E042B2D32F6C46B029D0E04&FORM=VIRE

Come to think of it, some of this seems to look very similar to the political views, desires and even actions of the far left today in America!

Now, out of all the “conspiracy theories” that are out there, I don’t know which ones you can, or cannot, definitively prove to be true, but the evidence in this article alone (that you are now reading) seems to give credibility to the possible truthfulness of at least some of those “theories.”

With this evidence in mind, my personal opinion of the Jesuit Society is this: The Catholic Church purposely created this group as not just another order of the Church (like the Dominicans, Franciscans, Benedictines, etc.), but created them to be the most influential and powerful political order of the Church, as stated earlier.  The Church knew very well that the members of this Society would be “leftists” and “radical progressives” (like the current pope is), and the Church knew that they would be deceptive, disruptive and hated by many.  And when the world catches the Jesuits in an evil act, the Catholic Church could then deny knowing exactly what the Society (overzealous as they are) had been up to, and could thus distance themselves from the Jesuits – at least temporarily.  That way, the Church could point the finger at someone else and yet, still have their dirty work done.  They would then protect those same Jesuits by secretly moving them to another location to continue their work, in much the same way the Church has been protecting their pedophiles and corrupt priests in the past.  That’s what I believe.

So how does Jesuit Pope Francis fit into all this?  Interesting question.  No doubt, he espouses Jesuit values, or else he wouldn’t be one?  With his controversial tendencies, “progressive” viewpoints, and global influence, he will surely and eventually live up to the name “Jesuit.”

 

CLERICAL DRESS

We’ve all seen Catholic priests (and other Catholic leaders) with their special “outfits” or “uniforms” on, usually some type of robe and the typical white collar worn backwards.  They seem to always wear this, especially during Mass (Church services) or other religious events. 

Of course these are certainly not the only types of religious clothing that you will see in the Catholic Church.  There is a history of evolving clerical dress for the Church over the years, but we will not be delving into that aspect of it.

By the way, there are other groups who claim to serve Jesus Christ besides Catholics that wear some type of clerical dress.  Others include the different branches of Eastern Orthodox and even some Protestant groups who wear such attire.

But the question I want to ask today is why?  For what purpose do these groups clothe themselves in such a way?  Why must they be distinguished from others by their garb?

Set Apart

According to one Catholic source, the purpose of clerical attire is:

“It’s associated with liturgy, status, and people’s relationship to material objects… It helps define the religious body… It has conveyed a sense of community, solidarity, and allegiance.”

The author of the article says that a priest in a Roman collar “appears neat and respectable, someone worthy of respect in society, and will be perceived as a professional.” 

Concerning Catholic women religious groups, the author also said:

“…if they were seen doing charitable work in their distinctive clothing, it helped win respect from non-Catholics.”

See the article here:

https://uscatholic.org/articles/201907/how-clothing-became-the-thread-that-ties-catholics-together/

According to one non-Catholic source, the purpose for clerical dress is:

·      For people to “see them as different”

·      “To show clergy’s dedication”

·      To show “their tradition and role”

·      To “tell us about a cleric’s connection to God and their job in the church”

·      “For showing who is part of the clergy at events or when they’re helping people”

·      “This attire helped identify them as leaders of worship and guidance within communities”

This article can be found here:

https://choiron.com/blogs/news/uncover-the-history-of-clericals-in-church-tradition#:~:text=Key%20Takeaways%201%20Clerics%20started%20wearing%20special%20clothes,and%20their%20job%20in%20the%20church.%20More%20items

The article also stated:

“The detachable clerical collar reflects not just an evolution in fashion but symbolizes a binding commitment to spirituality and service across Christian denominations.”

A Closer Look

Ok, so let’s take a look at these reasons for Catholic leaders to wear such attire.  Going back to the first link at the beginning of this article, we find that such attire is to emphasize the liturgy (customary public ritual of worship), status, people’s relationship with objects (I suppose they are referring to symbolism here), definition, community, solidarity and allegiance.  In other words, it seems to give them a sense of belonging in a special group.  One of the things mentioned here that could cause concern is the “status” issue.  We’ll come back to that.

Continuing on in the first article, Catholic leaders have a desire to appear neat, respectable and professional.  On the surface, there is nothing at all wrong with that.

The non-Catholic source mentions seeing clergy as different because of their dedication/role/job and connection to God, the necessity of identifying clergy at events, as leaders of worship and guidance, and are known for their commitment/spirituality/service.

These reasons sound good and there seems to be nothing on the surface that should alarm us about clerical dress.  But again, in a roundabout way, they also call attention to the status of the person.    

Ulterior Motive?

Here’s where it gets tricky.  There is nothing wrong with having leaders in the church.  They are, of course, biblical and very much needed.  But very often, people will tend to put their leader up on a pedestal.  I remember very well, as a child who was raised Catholic, I had a respect (or perhaps more accurately, a fear) of priests.  And almost all the Catholics I knew were more than willing to kiss up to the priest as one would a king.

But there is a difference, on the one hand, between foolishly fawning over someone important, and on the other hand, truly “giving honor to whom honor is due” (Romans 13:7).  So, yes, there should be respect and honor toward church leaders, but remember, there is a balance.   We can see that balance here in what Jesus said about the scribes and Pharisees:

“But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.  But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.” (Matthew 23:5-8)

To consider other believers as equal with you is the biblical attitude for spiritual leaders.  Yes, as a leader, you have a different role in the church than the others, but in the eyes of God, they are just as important as you are.  Actually, according to Scripture, the minister is the servant of the congregation (Philippians 2:5-7; Colossians 1:25)!  After recognizing this fact, to wear a distinct set of clothing in order to stand out from the others is questionable, at best, and calls into question your motives.  

The scribes and Pharisees loved the spiritual titles that were bestowed upon them and the intoxicating affection that came with it.  But Jesus burst their bubble and told them that they were all brothers, i.e., they were not to see themselves as “greater than” the common people. 

Also, neither did He allow them to be “set apart” by their clothing/fashion:

“Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples, ‘Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;’” (Luke 20:45-46)

The truth is they did it for show.  Yes, they wore the special garments so everyone would notice them and revere them over the “common” people.

Blending In or Standing Out?

But wait a minute!  Didn’t Jesus also wear a robe?  Wasn’t He distinguishing Himself?  After all, He was a Jewish rabbi, right?

But note this fact:  When Judas Iscariot was approaching Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane to betray Him, why did Judas have to give a sign to the murderous mob of Jews in order to identify Jesus and to distinguish Him from the apostles?  Look what happened:

“Now he [Judas] that betrayed Him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he: hold him fast.” (Matthew 26:48)

Jesus was a rabbi, but if He was wearing special clerical attire (like the Pharisees and scribes), why in the world did Judas have to give them a secret sign, and why did they not simply recognize Him by His clothing?  It seems that Jesus actually blended in with the others quite well.  So, Jesus was not trying to stand out among the leaders by His clothing or to promote special vestments of any kind for the “clergy.”

Outward Appearance or Behavior?

But what about priests in the Old Testament?  If special clothing for the spiritual leaders is wrong today, then why did God command the Old Testament priests to have a distinct attire (Exodus 28:1-43)?  If it was ok to wear those distinctive garments back then, why not today?

The point is the clerical garb in the Old Testament was very symbolic and it was used to point to Jesus in the New Testament.  Each and every piece of clothing was a distinct picture of Jesus Christ.  And all that symbolism was fulfilled by Him, not necessarily intended to be continued in the New Testament church.

The question must be asked, “Why would a Christian want to wear a “uniform” indicating that he is a “clergyman”?  Would this not appeal to the flesh and cause pride issues?  Again, wasn’t this the exact thing that happened to the leaders/Pharisees/scribes of Jesus’ day?

Is there anything wrong with wearing nice clothing?  No, not at all.  A close Christian friend of mine says that someone in church should not look like a bale of hay that had just been shot out of a cannon.  Although appearance is not everything, we certainly should not want to be dressed sloppily or indecently, but rather, appropriately.  

But is there really a need to broadcast your “ministry” and your status, through special clothing?  Should it not be shown through your behavior instead?

1 Peter 3:3-4 talks about one’s adorning/value not being merely outward:

“Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.”

Although Peter was speaking about women here, this principle should still apply to men.

Not surprisingly, many outsiders/unbelievers think that this ministerial clothing is all about pride, maybe even about intimidation! 

Conclusion

I’m not saying that everyone who wears clerical dress of any kind does it out of selfish pride, but human nature can easily and quickly give in to pride (Genesis 3:6; Proverbs 16:18; 1 John 2:16).

In America, billions of dollars are spent each year on make-up and beauty products, gym memberships and provocative clothing.  People are well aware of their looks and what they want to look like.  We strive to be attractive and we desire to be noticed. 

Furthermore, it is a fact of human nature that a person (Christian or not) who is wearing a uniform of any kind is normally self-aware of that uniform, especially if he is proud of his accomplishments that are represented by the uniform.  In fact, many are hoping to be noticed by others, desiring to be on display.

Whether it is a Boy Scout uniform, a police uniform, a martial arts uniform, a military uniform, etc., the person is almost always conscious of it.  Many of these will even admit that they wear these uniforms out of pride.  Do you think that priests, rabbis or Christian ministers are exempt from this tendency?  No, no one is. 

So, whether it is a Jewish rabbi, a Catholic or orthodox priest, or a Protestant minister, they should be very careful.  Jesus knows the heart of man and how capable he is of pride (Jeremiah 17:9; 2 Timothy 3:2).  I think we need to heed His Word by examining our hearts daily (2 Corinthians 13:5). 

Clerical dress can certainly be a stumbling block, both for the one who wears it and for the one who observes the wearer.

A LESSON NOT YET LEARNED FROM THE PAST

 

For a long time Catholics have chided Protestants for their divisions.  The Catholic Church claims to be the one true Church of Jesus Christ (CCC #2105).  They claim that they are “one” because of the Church’s dedication to unity.  See this article:

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2014/02/there-aremany-important-choices-that-we.html

Catholics claim a “profound” unity, one which is established by God and is “inherent” in the Church.  They will claim that their unification is in direct obedience to the prayer of Jesus Christ in John 17.  But interestingly, the Catholic Church is also concerned about unity with other spiritual groups, including non-Christian ones.

But this is nothing new – they have been spearheading (and are totally committed to) an ecumenical movement which will ultimately cause all religions to come together in “peace,” with the Catholic Church as the head, of course. 

Those leading in this ecumenical movement seem to be saying that we should all put aside our differences and focus on our agreements and similarities.  After all, wasn’t unity what Jesus was all about?  (Actually, no – see Matthew 10:34).  And wouldn’t this unity lead to peace, something that would benefit the whole world?

Well, this sounds really good, doesn’t it?  Everyone would be one big happy family.  Although we would not agree on everything, or even agree on many things, we would at least be “unified” and enjoying peace, right?

But what does this type of unity look like?  Would it look like former Pope John Paul II’s  prayer meetings, where he prayed together with religious leaders from around the world, including Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahais, a voodoo priest, witch doctors, and other pagans – hoping to focus on “common ground”?  Is this the “unity” that the Catholic Church is hoping for?

What Will I Have to Give Up?

These ecumenical groups want to encourage dialogue with others in order to bring about this unity.  Dialogue with other groups is fine, but again, their emphasis must be, and will ultimately be, on putting aside our theological and spiritual differences, even our most cherished ones in order to be part of this group.  But this concept is totally unbiblical and promotes “unity at any cost.”  And the cost would indeed be great.

But how can Catholics “unite” with others whose faith does NOT include the same authority, doctrine, worship, government, outward expression, or sacraments?  “Can two walk together, unless they are agreed” (Amos 3:3)?

But it is interesting how they praise the “special” unity they have, yet they also want to unite with other spiritual groups (like Protestants and others) who (according to the Catholic Church) do not have true unity!  So, which is it?  Do you Catholics want to embrace true unity or not?  Why brag about your own “unique” brand of unity and then desire to tarnish that unity by joining with other groups whose concept of unity is “tainted”?

Even if Catholics would be sincere about true unity and true faith, those with whom they are joining would necessarily be corrupting that faith with a different form of their own. 

The Core Biblical Truth

But is the peace sought after in this modern ecumenical movement biblical?  Is this actually the kind of peace and unity that Jesus had in mind?

Jesus Christ is indeed the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6).  But there is such a thing as false peace, as well (Jeremiah 6:14).  This is the “peace” that the ecumenical movement brings.  The Bible also tells us:

“There is no peace, saith the Lord, unto the wicked” (Isaiah 48:22). 

These groups will have neither true peace nor true unity.  And it is extremely important to remember that the unity that Jesus calls for is unity in the truth (John 17:17)!

Following is one of the simplest and most critical teachings in all of Scripture.  The rejection of this verse by the world religions and other non-Christians is the cause of many, if not most, of them perishing in the Lake of Fire.  Listen very carefully to what Jesus Christ says:

“Jesus saith to him, ‘I am the way, the truth, and the life:  no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.’” (John 14:6)

There is no way to avoid this core biblical truth.  It is His work on the cross, alone, that allows any human being to be fit for Heaven.  Absolutely no one on the face of this planet could possibly make it into Heaven apart from His suffering at Calvary.  Those who do not abide by this truth will be lost.  Yes, Christianity is exclusive, so the secular world (and even the religious world) doesn’t like this fact. 

John 14:6 simply will not allow the modern ecumenical movement to ultimately prosper.  This is an absolute biblical fact.  This movement cannot and will not circumvent the truth of God’s Word.  I pray that we can all embrace this truth before Judgment Day comes.

Who is Behind this?

It’s interesting to see some of the groups who are behind all this modern ecumenical activity.  How is it that secular organizations like the United Nations (UN) and the European Union (EU), corrupt as they both are, would be so interested in a religious crusade like the ecumenical movement?  Personally, I believe that their interest is in control, not brotherly unity.

The World Council of Churches (WCC) is another corrupt entity that is pushing this idea.  In fact, they have been working together with the Catholic Church to bring about this movement for quite a while now. 

Another such attempt at ecumenism happened in 1994, where a group of Catholics and Protestants got together and drafted a document titled Evangelicals and Catholics Together: the Christian Mission in the Third Millennium (ECT).  It was signed by prominent members on both sides.   The document emphasized unity and a common mission between the two groups.  This seemed to be an attempt to reverse the Protestant Reformation of the 16^th century, and there was a heavy emphasis on agreement on the doctrine of justification.

Shame on these Protestants for betraying the gospel of grace.  Whether intentional or not, they have fallen for the slick language and have violated the biblical gospel and traded it for a works-based salvation, which is inherent in the Catholic system.  Have both sides forgotten what the Reformation was all about?  Did these people forget about all the anathemas (curse of excommunication) hurled at Protestants from the Catholic Council of Trent?  Do they not remember that many people died (on both sides) to maintain their cherished doctrines?  Or is it all just a simple “mistake” or “misunderstanding” from the past, to be glossed over today?

The Tower of Babel One More Time?

The book of Genesis tells us of man’s first attempt at ecumenism (Genesis 11:1-8).  In a nutshell, God confounded this endeavor when they were trying to form a one-world government/religion.  He didn’t like it then, and He doesn’t like it now.  But in this modern, last-day attempt, God will actually allow mankind to go through with it, but man will finally see that the result will be disastrous.  It will end with the anti-Christ creating a one-world “church” where everyone will be forced to worship him (the anti-Christ) because he performed impressive false miracles (Revelation 13:11-15)… and many will believe in this great delusion (2 Thessalonians 2:11) and will be eternally lost because of it.

Conclusion

Shouldn’t the world have learned an important lesson from this biblical story?  No, they haven’t, but this ecumenical movement is an attempt by man to re-create the tower of Babel.  In essence, it is man shaking his fist toward God once again, and saying “We don’t care what God thinks about it, we will make a name for ourselves” (Genesis 11:4). 

I once heard an example given by Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason.  His example demonstrated the importance of similarities and differences.  He drew a picture of two small round circles, one representing an aspirin and the other representing arsenic (a deadly poison).  He pointed out that they were both small pills, both round, and both started with the letter “a”.  These were the similarities.  But far more important was the fact that one would KILL you and the other would help if you had a headache.

He made the point that their differences were far more important than what they had in common.  It is the same thing with different religions/beliefs.  No matter how many similarities a false religion has with the true one, being at odds with the most crucial core belief of Christianity is fatal.  The difference between the biblical gospel and other “gospels” is one’s destiny for eternity.

So, there is no way that all religions can come together in “unity” in a successful way.  They cannot tolerate the harsh truth that Jesus is the only way to Heaven.  My friends, either Jesus is lying or He is telling the truth.  We cannot have it both ways.

If I were a Catholic, I would take a serious look at the list of powerful people and organizations that are promoting this ecumenism and run far away from them.  Any group pursuing such “unity” is extremely dangerous.

This biblical lesson from the past that God has given mankind concerning ecumenism is simply one from which we MUST learn.  Each person’s eternal destination depends on it.