Monday, September 1, 2025

YES, CATHOLICS DO WORSHIP MARY (Part 4)

This is the fourth and final article in this series on Mary and why I say that Catholics actually worship her.

There seems to be a silly false dichotomy that is common in Catholicism: Either 1) Protestants should pray to Mary, or 2) if they don’t, they must hate her!

First of all, I want to emphasize that no Protestant that I know hates Mary and we are in no way trying to denigrate her.  In fact, I am glad that God chose her for this great distinction and we know that God knows what He’s doing.  She proved to be a humble, faithful servant of God and a fitting mother and nurturer to bear the Savior.  All of us should agree on that.  This was a great honor and indeed all generations are calling her blessed, as Mary stated (Luke 1:48).  Yes, she had a definite, God-given role in history, but that does not justify praying to her.  As I said in the beginning, the only recipient of prayer should be God.

Putting Things into Perspective

Catholics love to stress that Mary “cooperated” with God by saying “Yes” to Him and agreeing to bear the Savior.  But what if she had said “No”?  Would the will of God have been frustrated?  Would we now be without a Savior?  Of course not.

God is not limited, but Catholics act as though the Messiah coming to earth would have been absolutely impossible if it weren’t for this one humble virgin!  But I’m sure there were very many young, godly and capable virgins in that day who would have done anything to have the honor of bearing the Messiah.  Catholics need to quit acting like God’s hands would have been tied without Mary accepting this honor.  They act as though Mary came to the rescue and saved the day when no one else was willing or able.  In this way, Catholics are almost making her the Savior.  But the truth is that God could have used someone else!

“Mother” of the Church?

In John 19:26-27, Catholics find an interesting concept.  Jesus, from the cross, told the apostle John, “Behold your mother.”  From this statement, Catholics deduce that this is intended to convey the idea that Mary is now going to be the “Mother” of the whole church.  And from this idea, there are a multitude of privileges and special honors that follow her. 

But if that’s true, then what about the second half of the equation?  Does this also mean that John is the “son” of the whole church, since Jesus also told Mary, “Woman, behold your son”?  Why doesn’t the Catholic Church make a big deal over that, as well?  No, Jesus was not giving Mary a new exalted role here, but was simply putting His mother into the care of the apostle as she grew old.  Just as there is no universal “son of the church,” neither is there a universal “Mother of the church.”

Spirit Over Family

“And it came to pass, as He spoke these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto Him, ‘Blessed is the womb that bare Thee, and the paps which Thou hast sucked.’  But He said, ‘Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.’”  (Luke 11:27-28)

No, Jesus was not being rude to His mother here, as some suggest.  But in this passage, Jesus is showing everyone here how it is more blessed to be a follower of Christ than to be the physical mother of Christ!  Jesus emphasizes the importance of the spiritual aspect of the believer’s relationship with Him, over the familial aspect between Him and His mother. 

Abusing James

“Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed.  The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” (James 5:16)

Catholics almost always point to this passage when appealing to the Catholic teaching of praying to Mary and the saints in Heaven.  They’ll eagerly point out the fact that “… The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much,” and that Mary and the saints in Heaven are far more righteous than we are.  Therefore (according to Catholics), we should ask for their intercession, i.e., for their prayers for us. 

But if Catholics want to be consistent in their use of James 5:16, they should also obey the part that says (“… pray one for another”).  So, if that’s true, Catholics on earth should also have to pray FOR Mary and FOR those same saints in Heaven who are (supposedly) praying for those on earth!  The context of this verse is clearly not just one-way prayer, but RECIPROCAL PRAYER (… pray one for another…)! 

But why would anyone need to pray for Mary and the saints in Heaven?  They have need of nothing in the presence of Jesus!  But this is the logical conclusion when trying to use the context of this passage to prove prayers to Mary/saints.  It just doesn’t work.

Again, James is talking about reciprocal prayer – he is actually telling the saints on earth to pray for one another here on earth!  This passage fails to support the teaching of prayer to Mary and the saints.

Marian Mantras

I would like to address some very common sayings that Catholics have of Mary.  These are like mindless mantras and are often blurted out without even thinking:

  • A Catholic once said, “We never give more honor to Jesus than when we honor His mother.”

So, let’s take that idea to its logical conclusion.  According to this logic, the more we honor Mary, the more we honor Christ.  If that’s true, then maybe we should whole-heartedly adore/latria/worship Mary as God, so that Jesus can then be super-duper worshipped!  He would be getting absolutely unlimited honor and worship, right?  But something tells me that Catholics would take issue with this idea.

No, Catholics think that this “more-honor-to-Mary” equals “more-honor-to-Jesus” idea sounds good, but it is utterly false and absurd.

  • Another false mantra is that “Mary always points to Jesus!” 

This was true of the biblical Mary, but not with the “Catholic Mary.”  According to one of the popular visions of Fatima, “Mary” gave instructions to pray the rosary every day “to bring peace to the world and the end of the War” [WW1].  But why the rosary, since its prayers to Mary far outnumber those directed to God/Jesus?  This is pointing more toward her. 

This “Mary” also told the children that God wished for “devotion to her Immaculate Heart for world peace and the salvation of souls.”  Again, she requested that they pray that Russia would be consecrated to her Immaculate Heart.  Is this pointing to Jesus or to “Mary”?  Furthermore, she asked that a chapel be built in her honor!  It is her exaltation that seems to be the goal here, not Jesus.’

Amazingly, she also said that peace with Russia would be granted and that “ONLY I CAN HELP YOU.  My Immaculate Heart will be your refuge and the way that will lead you to God.” (Emphasis added)

See this article:

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-visions-of-fatima.html

It is clear that the “Mary” to whom Catholics pray does not always point to Jesus.

  • Mary is a “shortcut to Jesus”!

While this might sound good, the Scriptures tell us that we can go directly to God through Jesus (Hebrews 4:14-16), since He is fully able to sympathize with our needs and weaknesses, and that we can approach the throne of grace with confidence.  Was the author of Hebrews lying when he said this?  No, but adding Mary to the list only adds one more layer to the process.  Some “shortcut”!

  • Mary is “the surest way to her Son”!

If we come to Jesus humbly for salvation, we are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-10).  If we come to Him with other needs, it is the same.  But Mary is needed in neither case.  Again, I would repeat what I said just above: Hebrews 4:14-16 assures us that we will be heard, if we approach Him with confidence and with humility.   The surest way to Jesus is by faith in His word, not faith in His mother.

“The Bible Doesn’t Say…”

When Protestants claim that praying to Mary is wrong, Catholics will often say, “But the Bible doesn’t say NOT to pray to Mary, does it?”

But there are countless things that the Bible doesn’t address specifically.  For example, it never says, “Don’t throw your trash over your neighbor’s fence into his yard,” or “Don’t slash your co-worker’s tires.”  There is nothing in the Bible that specifically addresses these things.  But we all know that these things are prohibited because of the command to “love your neighbor” (Leviticus 19:18; Matthew 22:39).  That is a general principle found throughout Scripture that overrides any act that would violate that command.

The Bible may not specifically say, “Don’t pray to Mary,” or “Never address the saints or angels in prayer,” but there is a way that we can know if these things are allowed.  We have biblical principles throughout the Scriptures, and patterns in which to cling when there is no specific instruction.  We should look to examples of what the people of God did, and what they avoided.  And the continuous pattern throughout Scripture is very simple – it is that people prayed to God alone!

Conclusion

It seems that Mary is the only mother in history who has been dignified with such incredible titles of exaltation from the Catholic Church.  Granted, her Son is indeed the Savior and is of immeasurable worth.  But one would think that other mothers of great children would also be dignified in a similar manner for their child’s sake.

For example, Moses is recognized as the greatest Old Testament prophet ever.  Few people are as revered by the Jews as Moses was.  Yet, his mother, Jochebed, was never considered to be:

“Co-Mediatrix between God and the Jews,” Co-Redemptrix of the Jews,” “Mother of the Jews,” “Mother of the Mosaic Law,” “Queen over the Red Sea,” “Co-Provider of manna,” “Sovereign Princess of plagues,” “Mother of the brazen serpent,” “Co-Intercessor of the Israelites,” or “Queen of the Promised Land.”

Someone might say, “But that’s ridiculous!”  But why is it ridiculous for Jochebed when the same thing is being done for Mary?  None of Moses’ exploits, prophecies and great miracles would have been done if Jochebed had not given birth to him.  That seems to be the criteria for Mary’s exaltation, so why not Jochebed, as well?  After all, she literally saved Moses’ life, as a child, when she kept him from the Egyptians and placed him in a basket in the Nile River.  So why is Jochebed not also sharing the attributes of her son, Moses, and the honor he held? 

Funny, but we see very little of Jochebed in the Scriptures, in spite of the great exploits of her son.  The truth is, we also see very little of Mary in the Scriptures, yet her titles, honor and attributes of Jesus abound.

You have to wonder, how many other godly, humble and faithful mothers out there are being deprived by the Catholic Church of the honor and veneration they deserve?  Is it because the Church would see this as usurping the honor their sons deserve?  Yes, it should be.  Then how much more is the Catholic Church usurping the honor and uniqueness of the Savior of mankind when giving Mary the honor and attributes that only her Son should have?

Once again, I would have to say that Mary, by biblical standards, is being worshipped and this is the sin of idolatry.  There is no other way to see it.  And the Catholic Church seems to have no problem with that.

Whom have I in Heaven but thee? And there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee? (Psalm 73:25)

See also these links:

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2021/03/excessive-devotion-to-mary-in-catholic.html

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2011/02/praying-to-saints.html

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2023/10/worship-and-prayer.html

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2024/01/if-you-cant-find-jesus-look-for-his.html

 

 

15 comments:

  1. Hi Russell, This was an excellent conclusion to your series, with many important points made. (I loved the comparison between Mary and Jochebed! Your fanciful titles for Moses’ mother made me laugh.)

    Your point about the “silly false dichotomy” regarding Mary--i.e. either worship her or hate her--was well stated. Of course, the proper thing to do is to hold a biblical view of Mary, which would be between those two extremes. Many years ago, I had read something that I liked and saved to my computer; it came to mind as I read your post, so I will share it with you. The writer (Dan Phillips, formerly of Team Pyro) offered this description of a proper view of Mary:

    “Mary, the mother of Jesus, is a pivotal yet relatively minor figure in the New Testament, of no more ongoing direct personal impact on the lives of Christians than any other exemplary (yet flawed) redeemed sinner depicted in the Bible.”

    Dan Phillips also wrote this:

    “Here is something to ponder: ‘We don't worship Mary. We just pray to her, attribute to her the Divine ability to hear thousands of prayers at the same time, focus on her, put statues of her all over the place, carry pictures of her in our wallets, make up stories about her, obsess on reported visions of her, go on at length about ways to live in devotion to her, and give her un-Biblical titles. But we don't worship her.’”

    Much more has been written on this subject, of course, but that makes the point well, I believe--as did your series.

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  2. Hi Lorna,

    Thank you so much for your words of encouragement! I also appreciate the quotes from Dan Phillips... they sure ring true. Thanks again, Lorna!

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  3. Russell you say at the beginning of your post, "There seems to be a silly false dichotomy that is common in Catholicism: Either 1) Protestants should pray to Mary, or 2) if they don’t, they must hate her!" You say that is "common." Do you have some actual evidence to support your claim?

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  4. Hello Unknown,

    No, I don’t have any documented cases from the past to show you, but it has certainly been something I have seen and experienced on more than one occasion. It seems to be a knee-jerk reaction from some Catholics, who get very offended if we refuse to pray to her, thinking that Mary is being denied an honor she deserves.

    But actually, I CAN show you one recent example of this, if you will check out Part 2 of this very same series and look down at the very first comment. The commenter states, “You really just hate her that much.”

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    1. Russell, thank you for responding. So other than your own anecdotal memories and the comment of of someone on this blog your dichotomy might be construed as a false depiction of how Catholics view non-Catholics' views on Mary. I am fairly certain that most educated Catholics and the Catholic Church do not teach what you present in your dichotomy. There are some other problematic statement on your post as well. I hope to address some of those in the near future.

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  5. Hello Anonymous,

    Thank you for your comments.

    My point about the false dichotomy was that this was a common knee-jerk mentality with some Catholics I’ve seen and dealt with, and it is probably more common than you might think. But I wasn’t suggesting that this was something that the Church officially teaches, but only an interesting mindset within Catholicism.

    But feel free to address what you feel are problematic statements in the post. I look forward to our discussion

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    1. I sometimes read this blog but refrain from commenting, however I would like to respond to this dichotomy discussion. Russell you may have encountered someone with the "knee-jerk" mentality that would say that protestants must hate Mary if they do not pray to Mary. I have been around the block for some time and love theology and a good theological debate; with that in mind am fairly certain the common sentiment you describe is simply not true. I cannot remember a Catholic ever expressing that sentiment or any apologist, or any document, or teaching of the Catholic Church making such a statement let alone that being some sort of representative mindset of Catholics. You may disagree based on your own experiences, but experience is not always evidence.

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  6. Hello John,

    What is the sudden obsession with this dichotomy? This may or may not have been your experience with those folks who pray to Mary, but it has indeed been mine.

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  7. I have no obsession with your dichotomy. I was just pointing out that in spite of your experience you are wrong if you believe that it is remotely true that it is "common" for Catholics to believe those that do not pray to Mary, hate Mary. There may be some Catholics that mistakenly believe that, but to suggest that is a common belief is an error you have made perhaps because of your experience rather than ignorance.

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  8. John,

    Ok, you made your point. You don't see it as common, but the fact remains that this has been my experience. I don't see why we need to go any further on this, unless you have another argument. There are much deeper issues concerning prayer to Mary than this dichotomy.

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  9. Hi Russell, If I may share my perspective on this, I would say John’s objection is one of semantics, where perhaps the assertion that “Catholics say that Protestants hate Mary if they don’t pray to her” is an overstatement but the meaning behind it is completely valid. What is meant by that assertion--and which I can attest from my experience as well--is that Catholics very much believe that Protestants do not show due honor and respect to Mary for her role as they see it. This supposed “disrespect” is often deemed even “hateful” on our part (evidenced by your Anonymous commenter who stated that very thing). However, if such Catholics were to understand that the functions which the RCC ascribes to Mary (regarding our salvation and sanctification, specifically) have no biblical support--and in fact contradict clear teaching from the Word of God--they would realize that the typical Protestant’s degree of honor and respect for Mary is at the exact proper degree it should be. It is of course the Catholic view of Mary that is in error, rather than the Protestant--as your series made clear.

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  10. Hello Lorna,

    I agree with your comments. For the record, I was emphasizing my own experiences, and I don't mean to disregard other people's experiences (whether Catholic or Protestant). I am sure many have not seen Catholics react the way I have, so it may seem strange to them. I know that the Catholic Church doesn't officially teach that Protestants hate Mary, but more importantly, teaching that someone SHOULD pray to Mary is certainly a problem biblically.

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    1. Absolutely, and it's that point to which John and other Catholic readers should give serious thought, rather than taking issue with the particular phrasing you used in your dichotomy.

      Again, this was a well-done expose; keep up the good work.

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  11. Christianity’s promise of eternal life in heaven may sound comforting, but when you really think about it, it borders on psychological torment. The idea of living forever in a place where everything is perfect and unchanging strips away the very essence of what makes life meaningful. Human beings thrive on contrast—joy only matters because sorrow exists, purpose comes from struggle, and time gives urgency to our choices. In heaven, where there’s no pain, no risk, and no end, what’s left to strive for? The concept of eternal worship or endless bliss starts to feel less like a reward and more like a sterile, mind-numbing existence. It’s not just boring—it’s existentially suffocating. If heaven is the final destination, then Christianity offers not fulfillment, but an eternity that erases individuality, curiosity, and the dynamic nature of being human.

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  12. Hello Anonymous,

    I normally like to have comments relevant to the topic, but you raise some interesting points.

    First of all, I would say that, since there are only TWO destinations (Heaven or the Lake of Fire) for eternity, the choice is obvious.

    Second, if a person believes in God and accepts the fact that He has all power and knows all things, then he must realize that God certainly knows our physical and mental limitations. The things you described do indeed apply to our state NOW, while we are in human form. But God will give us a new psyche, a new mind and a new body, one that will be conducive to Heaven.

    We will certainly have our own individuality and even a “better” function of curiosity. In fact, I believe that when we get to Heaven we may even be able to visit all places in the universe, since it would seem a waste for God to create all this incredible and beautiful creation if the average person will never get to see it up close!

    We have no idea just how incredible it will be! What makes life “meaningful” here on earth will not compare to existence in Heaven.

    I’ll take “no pain, no risk, and no end” from a merciful God any day over the alternative. Don’t let the enemy of our soul trick you into thinking that Heaven is not worth it, or that it will only be some warped, mind-numbing or tormenting form of existence.

    We serve a wonderful and benevolent God. If He wanted us to be utterly miserable, there would be no good on the earth at all.

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