Wednesday, July 1, 2026

JOE HESCHMEYER AND THE EUCHARIST

 

“Well, if it’s just a symbol, to Hell with it!”

The above quote is from a Catholic author and apologist, Mary Flannery O’Connor, at a literary gathering, and it was intended as a rebuke toward a writer who commented that the Catholic Eucharist was a symbol.  It seems that emotions run high between Catholics and Protestants when speaking on this particular topic.

But the quote from O’Connor makes one think.  If the Catholic Eucharist is really all that the Catholic Church says it is, then every single one of us who names the name of Christ should line up to worship this Eucharist. However… if Catholics are wrong about this, they are guilty of outright idolatry.  Yes, the stakes are high, so we should make sure of what the Living God says on this topic.

There is much written on this subject, for and against, but our only sure hope of finding the truth is in God’s Word:

“Thy Word is truth…” (John 17:17).

Joe’s Article

I would now like to address an article from Catholic Answers written by Catholic author, apologist, and speaker, Joe Heschmeyer, who seems to be a likeable and intelligent guy.  His article is titled, “5 Tests for Your Faith in the Eucharist” and it was written May 18, 2026.  You can find it here:

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/5-tests-for-your-faith-in-the-eucharist

In order to know if you have the correct and biblical interpretation on the subject of the Eucharist, Joe suggests that your beliefs should be “strange, sacrificial, serious, sacramental and shocking.”

Ok, that’s an interesting statement, to say the least, so let’s dig in and see what Joe has to say.

Strange

First, he says the proper Christian understanding of the Eucharist should be strange and hard to accept. 

Joe is referring to the events in the gospel of John in chapter 6, where Jesus keeps telling His listeners that they must eat His flesh and drink His blood to be saved.  Joe is also saying that Jesus is referring to the Eucharist when He said these things.  At this time, many of Jesus’ followers walked away from Him because they felt that the words of Jesus were hard.  (By the way, Jesus was never obligated to chase after, or explain anything to, anyone who purposely walks away from Him!)

It seems that Joe is suggesting that since this teaching was initially received as strange and hard-to-accept for Jesus’ audience (John 6), it should be taken that way by everybody. 

But the truthfulness of a particular teaching is not determined by the reaction of the audience, but rather by measuring that teaching against the whole of Scripture. 

More to the point, either the “literalness” or the symbolism of any teaching is determined by context and common sense.  As many people know, Catholics believe that after the priest consecrates the Eucharist, it is changed into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus (transubstantiation).  To promote this teaching, Catholic apologists lean heavily on John 6, which is also called the “Bread of Life” discourse.  They believe that this chapter helps to prove that Jesus was speaking literally here about changes in the bread and wine.

If there were no symbolism at all in the “Bread of Life” discourse, I might agree with the Catholic Church, but symbolism is not only present, it is abundant in this chapter:

“And Jesus said unto them, ‘I am the bread of life: he that cometh to Me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on Me shall never thirst.’” (John 6:35)

This is a pivotal verse for this whole chapter, where “coming to Him” is equated with no longer hungering, and “believing on Him” is equated with no longer thirsting.  This is obviously symbolic language.  I don’t think that anyone in this audience is thinking that they would never physically hunger or thirst again if they came to Jesus and believed on Him.

Interestingly, Jesus continues to refer to “believing in Him” in v. 29, 36, 40, 47, and 64 – and this extends into, and well past, the “eat My flesh and drink My blood” language, which ends at v. 58.

Furthermore, Jesus also continues to use this “coming to Him” language in v. 37, 44, 45, and 65 – and again, it extends well into the “eat My flesh” passages. 

So, because of this, there is obviously figurative language throughout John 6, pointing strongly toward a symbolic eating of His flesh and a symbolic drinking of His blood.  This imagery simply refers to embracing, partaking of, and trusting in what Jesus was going to do on the cross, where man’s sin-debt was to be paid.

Sacrificial

Joe also points out that the apostle Paul compares the Jewish sacrifices with the heathen sacrifices of his day and that a person becomes a partner with whichever altar he chooses to partake of (1 Corinthians 10:14-22).  This is true, but this does absolutely nothing to prove transubstantiation, nor does it prove that the Lord’s Supper is a sacrifice.  Joe then says:

“If your understanding of the Eucharist isn’t a sacrifice comparable to the fleshly sacrifices offered in the temple in Jerusalem or in pagan rites, then you don’t believe what Paul believed.”

Catholics love to point out the “sacrificial overtones” in Paul’s description of the Lord’s Supper/Communion service (1 Corinthians 10:14-22; 11:20-34).  But of course there are sacrificial overtones – the bread and wine in Communion are pointing to the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus on the cross!  The bread represents His broken body and the wine, His shed blood.  The ritual itself is not a sacrifice, but it points to the sacrifice that happened on Calvary!

Serious

Joe then points out that Paul directly received the information he got from Jesus concerning the Eucharist/Communion.  According to Joe, this is how seriously Jesus takes the Eucharist and adds:

“He doesn’t just leave it up to us to figure out how best to commemorate or honor or worship him.”

Joe then points to how some in the church eat and drink of the elements unworthily and profane the body and blood of the Lord (1 Corinthians 11:28-30).  He then says:

“It’s hard to square this seriousness with a symbolic view of the Eucharist.”

But I would say, no, it’s not hard at all.  Consider Genesis 17:9-14: 

(v. 9) – “And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep My covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. 

(v. 10) – This is My covenant, which ye shall keep, between Me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 

(v. 11) – And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token [sign] of the covenant betwixt Me and you.”

(v. 13) – “… and My covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.”

(v. 14) – “And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken My covenant.”

Ok, so here we have circumcision, which is a TOKEN of the covenant (v. 11) between God and Abraham.  A token is a SIGN, a SYMBOL of the covenant.  Yet, notice the consequences for ignoring or abusing this “mere sign.”  The penalty was for one to be CUT OFF from God’s people!  (See also Exodus 31:14-15)

That sounds like a pretty stiff punishment for profaning a mere symbol, doesn’t it? 

So, yes, the Eucharist/Communion (like circumcision) can indeed be just a symbol, yet still endanger the one who abuses or disrespects the elements involved.  The reason is because of what the elements in the Lord’s Supper POINT TO – i.e., the work and suffering of Jesus Christ on Calvary.  These people in the church at Corinth were not discerning what these elements represented.  THAT’S why church members were sick and dying (1 Corinthians 11:30), not because the bread and wine supposedly turn into Jesus’ body and blood through transubstantiation. 

If you want to see a real, biblical and verifiable miraculous example of transubstantiation, look to the wedding at Cana (John 2:1-10).  The Catholic “miracle” of the Eucharist at Mass is none of these.

By the way, Jesus uses the same type of language in the New Testament as the Father did in the Old Testament: 

Genesis 17:10 – This [circumcision] is My covenant… between Me and you…

Luke 22:20 – … This cup [wine] is the New Testament [New Covenant] in My blood…

1 Corinthians 11:25 – This cup [wine] is the New Testament [New Covenant] in My blood…

Both the Father and Jesus call the symbols a “covenant” in the passages just above.  Now, we all know that a covenant is an intangible thing – an agreement, a contract, or a promise to do something.  But the tangible bread and wine (as well as Abraham’s circumcision) are not the actual covenant, itself, but are simply symbols of that covenant between God and man.  (See also Exodus 31:12-13; 16).

No doubt, the apostles at the Last Supper recognized Jesus’ use of the symbolic language from Genesis 17 and Exodus 31.  So, if the cup (wine) is a symbol, so is the bread. 

Thus, we see that symbolism is used in John 6 (as demonstrated earlier) and symbolism is also used again at the Last Supper (Luke 22:20; 1 Corinthians 11:25).  This would cancel out any purely “literal” language of transubstantiation.

Catholics will say that since Jesus didn’t explain His reasoning for the “strong language” in John 6, then He must have been speaking literally.  Well, Jesus most likely had explained it to His true followers later on (privately) in the John 6 event, but He certainly made the symbolism known at the Last Supper.

Sacramental

Joe then points out that Ignatius of Antioch “adopts a sacramentarian stance” concerning the events of John 6 and says that Ignatius seems to have been a disciple of John.  Joe then states:

“If anyone can shed light on what John 6 means, surely it is one of John’s own students.”

Well, no doubt we can learn some things from John’s students, but I think that we should not be overlooking the very words of the apostle John and Jesus Christ, Himself!  Why turn to fallible church fathers when you can go directly to the infallible and inspired words of Jesus and the apostles in Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16-17)?

We should follow the example of Jesus: When He quoted Scripture to the devil (Matthew 4:3-4) and the devil quoted Scripture right back at Him (v. 5-6), did Jesus turn to someone else for clarity and authority, like the venerable rabbis, scribes or scholars of His day?  No, Jesus simply went EVEN DEEPER INTO THE SCRIPTURES (v. 7) as an example of where to turn (… it is also written)!  Thus, He provided a fuller understanding.  So, we do have enough evidence in the Scriptures to determine that Jesus was speaking symbolically in the “Bread of Life” discourse, as pointed out above.

Concerning sacraments, I would like to point out that there is no such thing in Scripture as a sacrament, as described by the Catholic Church.  According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, “the sacraments confer the grace that they signify” (CCC #1127) and “the sacraments are efficacious signs of grace” (CCC #1131), etc., etc.

So, according to Catholicism, sacraments are rituals/signs that supposedly convey grace to the individual.  But grace (by definition) is not something that can be bought, earned or merited by doing a prescribed ritual.  Rituals are works and, according to Scripture, we don’t get grace by works (Romans 11:6).  We get grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8) and through humility (Proverbs 3:34; James 4:6; 1 Peter 5:5). 

See this article on sacraments:

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2011/01/sacraments-gods-grace-for-sale.html

Note also that the Catholic Church is forced to admit that the Eucharist is indeed a symbol (since it is known to them as a sacrament), but they say that it is not just a symbol.  In other words, according to Catholics, the Eucharist is both a symbol of Jesus, and it is also actually Jesus after consecration!

But how can something be a symbol of XYZ and at the same time, be the actual XYZ, itself?  If you were holding a photograph of yourself and you told someone “This is me,” what you really mean is “This is a picture, or symbol, or representation of me.”  The picture cannot be the actual “you.”  Only YOU, YOURSELF are the actual “you.” 

By definition, nothing can be both a symbol of something AND its reality.  It is either one or the other, but it can’t be a symbol of itself!  You can’t have it both ways.  There is nothing like this in nature or in Scripture.  You can’t just create unbiblical concepts just so your theology can work.  Again, this is not a biblical concept, but is simply a deceptive game of semantics used by the Catholic Church.

Shocking

Finally, Joe goes on to say that the crowd in John 6 found Jesus’ words shocking and even repulsive, and that later on in the ancient world, some even saw Christians as cannibalistic, because of the Eucharist.  I can see their point!  But Catholics seem to somehow take this as a badge of honor. 

Nevertheless, the New Testament tells us that the ritual of Communion/Eucharist is simply a memorial (Luke 22:19; 1 Corinthians 11:24-25) of what Jesus did for us on the cross.  Paul tells us its purpose is to proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes (1 Corinthians 11:26).  And we do exactly that.  This goal of proclaiming His death can certainly be achieved without any kind of literal or physical change in the elements. 

Conclusion

Time and time again, the Old Testament Jews were lured into the snare of idolatry (Exodus 23:32-33).  Many lost their souls because of it.  It seemed to be the devil’s most useful tool in the Old Testament.  Many people today seem to think that idolatry has largely “gone away,” but we also have New Testament warnings against this sin (e.g., 1 Corinthians 10:14; Galatians 5:19-21).

Like I said earlier, the stakes are high.  If there is ANY symbolism at all in the “Eucharistic” passages (and there is), I would be extremely cautious about embracing a “literal” understanding of it.  Any and all of us can freely pray to, spend time with, and worship Jesus Christ whenever we want to and wherever we are in the world, even if we are nowhere near the elements of bread and wine.  Transubstantiation is not at all needed to perform these acts of worship.

Remember, the Last Supper is not about the Church’s sacrifice to God in the Mass, but it is about God’s sacrifice provided for mankind on the cross.

The bottom line is that the Catholic Eucharist is a deception and a dangerous trap that leads to idolatry.

See this link for more on the Eucharist:

https://answeringcatholicclaims.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-sacrament-of-eucharist.html

 

 

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